Stroustrup & Sutter: The Lyrics

Last week’s Stroustrup & Sutter on C++ was a huge amount of fun, and Bjarne and I want to thank everyone who came. It was a record-shattering year, and it’s great to see C++ clearly thriving and growing.

A lot of people requested the (modified) lyrics to the songs we performed (yes, if you missed the event, you missed live music by geeks — imagine, if you will). To those who were there: You can now find the song lyrics at the same web page we gave out that contains the course eval link and the updated slides link. Just go back and you’ll see them, as well as the slides for What Not to Code in the handouts zipfile. Enjoy.

Thanks again for coming, and we hope to see you again next time. (The response to the post-seminar eval question about “would you recommend this course to a colleague” was a humbling 100.0%. Wow. It’s not often I see a pie chart that’s a solid circle. Thank you, and we’re glad you enjoyed it!)

One thought on “Stroustrup & Sutter: The Lyrics

  1. Hi Herb
    It’s good to feel that C++ is alive and clearly C++0x is helping that feeling, but to be contrary I came across this article in the comments of an Artima article today: http://prophipsi.blogspot.com/2008/03/why-i-no-longer-like-or-use-c.html
    And to be blunt, he has a point. It made me wonder. Is VS10 is going to be the product that prooves him right or wrong?
    C++ tools on all platforms are not advancing fast enough to allow me to use it often enough wherever I’d like. MS’s managed code vision complicates things for C++ further. I’m not interested in Managed vs Native debates. I just want to be able to use *100%*
    C++0x everywhere: in Web/ASP.NET/WPF *with full designer support*, in VMs, in Browsers, in SQL
    Server, and in Sliverlight but without having C# or C++/CLI (as practical as the latter is) forced on me to do that.
    The problem is, I can’t see how 100% pure C++0x is ever going to happen on Windows because .NET libraries imply C++/CLI or C# and often both and .NET keeps getting bigger. So until boost gets web and gui libraries these wants aren’t going to get addressed. Or are they?
    Maybe .NET isn’t the solution? Maybe it’s VMs with fast C++ apps that remote their interfaces to the clients machine and that play in browsers the same way or what have you. Who knows, you tell me?
    But regardless, I want to create 100% C++0x apps in various forms web and other in ways that customers can download onto their machines or into their browsers and I want to know as a developer and a customer of these apps that they *can’t* trash or steal anything, not just promise not to, and that MS is going to help me get there with the OS and C++0x. That’s the goal. So are they and how?
    Will we and should we be able to get it all? Thanks for your opinion :)

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